DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION
CENTER FOR DEVICES AND RADIOLOGICAL HEALTH
OBSTETRICS AND GYNECOLOGY DEVICES PANEL

SIXTY-FOURTH MEETING Tuesday, May 22, 2001

Holiday Inn Gaithersburg
5 Montgomery Village Avenue
Gaithersburg, Maryland

Uterine Fibroid Embolization (UFE)

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1 AFTERNOON SESSIONS

2 [2:00 p.m.]

3 DR. BLANCO: Why don't we go ahead and

4 call the meeting to order. I think we are going to

5 start on time and try to finish promptly.

6 I am going to go ahead and go through some

7 of the housekeeping chores again, just because we

8 have a slightly different audience this afternoon

9 than we did this morning.

10 I just want to remind everyone that if you

11 do not sign in, in the morning, that there is a

12 sign-up sheet out front, if you would please sign

13 in, so that we know who is in attendance.

14 When we get to the audience comments,

15 please be recognized by the Chair, use the

16 microphones for speaking, and give a full conflict

17 of interest disclosure including any financial

18 issues, travel, per diem, or any relationships with

19 any of the companies that may have any business

20 before the panel.

21 I would like to go ahead and have an

22 introduction of panel addition, and then we will

23 just go around quickly and have everyone state who

24 they are again.

25 DR. WHANG: We are pleased to have joining

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1 us for this session this afternoon, Professor Anne

2 Roberts, who is a Professor of Radiology and the

3 Chief of Vascular and Interventional Radiology at

4 UCSD.

5 DR. BLANCO: We can go around the table.

6 MS. BROGDON: Nancy Brogdon, Director of

7 the Division of Reproductive, Abdominal, and

8 Radiological Devices, FDA.

9 DR. NEUMAN: Mike Neuman from the Memphis

10 Joint Program in Biomedical Engineering of the

11 University of Tennessee Health Science Center and

12 the University of Memphis, Tennessee.

13 DR. O'SULLIVAN: Mary Jo O'Sullivan of the

14 University of Miami.

15 DR. ROY: Subir Roy, University of

16 Southern California.

17 DR. SHARTS-HOPKO: Nancy Sharts-Hopko,

18 Villanova University.

19 DR. KATZ: David Katz, Duke University.

20 DR. D'AGOSTINO: Ralph D'Agostino, Boston

21 University.

22 DR. SHIRK: Jerry Shirk, Clinical

23 Associate Professor at University of Iowa and

24 private physician in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.

25 DR. WHANG: Joyce Whang, Executive

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1 Secretary of this Ob-Gyn Devices Panel.

2 DR. BLANCO: Jorge George Blanco,

3 perinatalogist.

4 DR. LEVY: Barbara Levy, Clinical

5 Gynecologist and Assistant Clinic Professor of Ob-Gyn at

6 University of Washington.

7 DR. DIAMOND: Michael Diamond, Director of

8 the Division of Reproductive Endocrinology and

9 Infertility at Wayne State University.

10 DR. ROBERTS: Anne Roberts. You already

11 heard my bio.

12 MS. MOONEY: Mary Lou Mooney, Industry

13 Rep.

14 MR. REYNOLDS: Stan Reynolds, Consumer

15 Rep.

16 DR. BLANCO: Thank you.

17 Let's go ahead and introduce Mr. Colin

18 Pollard, Chief, Obstetrics and Gynecology Devices

19 Branch of the FDA, who will make some introductory

20 remarks.

21 Uterine Fibroid Embolization (UFE)

22 Introductory Remarks

23 Colin Pollard

24 MR. POLLARD: Thank you, Dr. Blanco,

25 ladies and gentlemen, members of the panel. Today,

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1 we will be talking about uterine fibroid

2 embolization, and I would like to go over a number

3 of things just to get things rolling.

4 [Slide.]

5 The last time we met on this topic was

6 October of 1999, when we brought this before our

7 panel. I would also like to talk about some

8 clinical developments with uterine fibroid

9 embolization since then.

10 The Society of Cardiovascular and

11 Interventional Radiology has been working very

12 actively on this and working with us, and I would

13 like to mention a few things that are going on

14 there. They will be following with a more detailed

15 presentation.

16 Since October of 1999, we have approved

17 two clinical trials for uterine fibroid

18 embolization, and we think we are at a good spot

19 where we should be developing a guidance document

20 for clinical trials and the 510(k)'s that would

21 support market clearance, so we are asking the

22 panel for input on that.

23 [Slide.]

24 In October of 1999, we were first looking

25 at uterine fibroid embolization. At that time, we

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1 were still grappling with the question of 510(k)

2 versus PMA, and we were sharing that sort of

3 struggle, if you will, or that kind of discussion

4 that was going on within the center.

5 We also heard a very good presentation

6 from the Society of Cardiovascular and

7 Interventional Radiology really introducing the

8 topic to the panel and going over some of the

9 reasons why it was something they wanted to do, and

10 then talking about some of the risks to patients,

11 as well as some of the benefits, and they did go

12 over a couple of the trials that had been

13 published, as well as ones that were in planning

14 stages or ongoing.

15 [Slide.]

16 Since then, there have been quite a few

17 clinical developments in uterine fibroid

18 embolization. The use of it continues to grow in

19 the United States, as well as worldwide. There is

20 more published literature available on it for us to

21 learn from.

22 Last year, ACOG issued a Practice Bulletin

23 No. 16, which is in your background package. That

24 practice bulletin, in fact, states that the College

25 considers it to be investigational.

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1 I know there are some ongoing discussions

2 between the College and the Society of

3 Cardiovascular and Interventional Radiology, and

4 there are a number of study proposals that are

5 under consideration at the October 1999 meeting.

6 If you remember the panel or at least some

7 of the panel were recommending, when we asked them

8 the question of what kind of control groups that

9 they were recommending, they had to have

10 randomization between uterine fibroid embolization

11 and myomectomies, and there are some proposals that

12 are under consideration for that.

13 [Slide.]

14 As I mentioned, SCVIR, I will it SCVIR,

15 the Society of Cardiovascular and Interventional

16 Radiology, has been very active since our panel

17 meeting in '99. They established a patient

18 registry, and you will hear more about this.

19 They established standards for reporting

20 data in the published literature on this procedure.

21 You will also hear an update on uterine fibroid

22 embolization in the United States, and they are

23 also going to be presenting some comments on the

24 questions that you have before you.

25 [Slide.]

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1 Just very quickly, a regulatory update

2 going over the classification, the market pathway,

3 clinical trials we have looked at, and the

4 development of the guidance document.

5 [Slide.]

6 First of all, the classification of

7 artificial embolizing agents is currently a Class

8 III product. This was originally a preamendments

9 device classified in Class III for neurological

10 indications. It has since then gained other

11 indications, and it is under a general indication

12 of embolization of hypervascular lesions that is

13 currently being done in the U.S.

14 That product or at least certain

15 embolizing agents are on track for reclassification

16 into Class II. In this last 20 years, the center

17 has handled a number of products and a number of

18 new indications for products by 510(k), which we

19 are entitled to do so.

20 I think the reclassification will apply to

21 polyvinyl alcohol particles, coils, and detachable

22 balloons. Those are all on track for

23 reclassification to Class II.

24 For uterine fibroid embolization, most of

25 this is being done with polyvinyl alcohol

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1 particles, and really the issue before us is

2 manufacturers' purpose to go from a general

3 indication for a hypervascular lesion to a specific

4 indication, and we are applying the center's

5 guidance document for doing that kind of thing.

6 Since the panel meeting, we made a

7 regulatory decision that we would use 510(k) to

8 handle that, 510(k) premarket notification to

9 handle that kind of market clearance preceded, of

10 course, by a clinical trial to establish that

11 specific indication.

12 [Slide.]

13 As I mentioned, currently, the accepted

14 indications for use for artificial embolization

15 agents are arteriovenous malformations and

16 hypervascular lesions.

17 [Slide.]

18 At this point, we have approved two

19 clinical trials to study artificial embolization

20 agents for uterine fibroid embolization. The

21 discussion questions that you have before you are

22 really a reflection of some of the key elements of

23 those that we wanted to get some panel input as we

24 went ahead and prepared a guidance document.

25 [Slide.]

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1 The guidance document, right now we are

2 working on it. We have to follow the good guidance

3 practices that the center uses when it releases

4 guidance documents, so since we haven't actually

5 got it available for public, so we don't have it

6 for you, but we tried to craft our discussion

7 questions in a way that you can get a good sense of

8 what is going on there.

9 It calls for clinical trials and really

10 that is what those discussion questions are all

11 about, and ultimately, the guidance document will

12 also address what needs to be in the 510(k)

13 premarket notification.

14 [Slide.]

15 So, at this point, I would just highlight

16 that we have got some discussion questions before

17 you, and really the main purpose of this meeting

18 this afternoon is really to use those questions to

19 provide us with input that we can take back and

20 help make as good a guidance document as we can.

21 Any questions?

22 [No response.]

23 DR. BLANCO: Thank you, Mr. Pollard.

24 We will move on. The next presentation

25 from the SCVIR will be by Dr. James Spies, I

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1 believe, Georgetown University. Please be sure to

2 state any conflict of interest, funding, travel,

3 per diem, honorarium, et cetera.

4 Presentation by Society of Cardiovascular

5 and Interventional Radiology

6 James B. Spies, M.D.

7 DR. SPIES: I don't have any financial

8 relationship with any of the vendors, but I am

9 principal investigator for the multicenter study

10 that is ongoing by BioSphere Medical in

11 Embospheres. I am not an investigator on the

12 Boston Scientific Study, but I am on the Clinical

13 Events Committee, so I do have at least I guess a

14 professional or scientific relationship with both

15 organizations.

16 DR. BLANCO: Thank you.

17 [Slide.]

18 DR. SPIES: What I thought I would do

19 today, I was asked by the SCVIR to make some

20 comments on the questions of the panel, and we

21 thought that what I could start with is just an

22 overview of the current status of this procedure

23 and what we know about it at this stage.

24 [Slide.]

25 So, I would like to talk a little bit

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1 about UAE, the rationale for it, and the technique,

2 briefly review the published case series that have

3 been made available in the last few years, review

4 our own experience in a little bit more detail to

5 give you a flavor of some of the analysis that has

6 been done, and then to comment specifically on the

7 questions that the FDA has posed.

8 [Slide.]

9 This was first reported by Ravina in the

10 English literature as the sole therapy for fibroids

11 in 1995. It was an article in Lancet, was a small

12 series, 16 patients. This stimulated Goodwin and

13 Dr. McLucas at UCLA to begin to study this and try

14 this procedure, and Dr. Goodwin reported that first

15 experience in 11 patients in 1997.

16 Despite this very limited experience, it

17 was the subject of considerable interest among

18 other researchers in this area, particularly among

19 the patients.

20 By the beginning of 1999, this therapy was

21 being offered probably in about 20 centers around

22 the country, and there had been numerous small case

23 series reported, and now we are getting into the

24 phase where we have some larger series, longer term

25 follow-up available.

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1 [Slide.]

2 One of the things that has always been a

3 question, just the standard approach in this,

4 because there is some discussion or controversy

5 about this is that most patients require a history

6 and physical examination including an examination

7 by a gynecologist, need to have a current Pap

8 smear.

9 For a subset of patients who have really

10 atypical bleeding patterns, an endometrial biopsy

11 or other means of endometrial sampling usually is

12 performed, but is not routinely done. If there has

13 been a history of recent gynecologic infection, we

14 would like to have negative cultures. Most

15 operators will get a CBC, a pregnancy test, and

16 occasionally or at least some operators routinely

17 get an FSH assay.

18 Imaging has to be used to confirm the

19 diagnosis. In our center, we use exclusively MRI

20 with limited charge, but I would say the average

21 operator in this country would use ultrasound.

22 Routine laparoscopy, hysteroscopy,

23 leiomyoma biopsy, deep myometrial biopsy, all those

24 things are generally not done and unnecessary for

25 most patients. There are some centers in which

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1 that is done, however.

2 [Slide.]

3 The technique is bilateral embolization of

4 the uterine arteries, and it is a selective uterine

5 artery catheterization, which means that the

6 catheter is placed within the uterine artery. It

7 is not placed within each blood vessel going to

8 each fiber, it is usually placed at the base of the

9 uterus in the cardinal ligament area.

10 A coaxial technique, which is a

11 microcatheter, is frequently needed if there is

12 spasm, and so I would say the typical operator

13 would use that probably half the time.

14 There are a number of different

15 combinations of sizes that can be used of these

16 particles. Polyvinyl alcohol particles, there are

17 two sizes. Most frequently used in this country

18 are 355 to 500, or 500 to 710 micron.

19 Now, embospheres, which are tris-acrl

20 micro-embospheres, are available in a number of

21 sizes, but again almost all the experience today is

22 in these two size ranges.

23 We, at Georgetown, use a bilateral femoral

24 approach, which means we puncture both femoral

25 arteries, which we have found to be a more

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1 expeditious way to do this procedure, many

2 operators will use a unilateral approach. Both

3 uterine arteries have to be treated regardless.

4 The goal is to embolize the leiomyoma

5 vascular supply. We do not want to infarct the

6 uterus, we do not want to completely occlude the

7 uterine artery flow. We would like to

8 devascularize the fibroids.

9 In our program, we always try to spare as

10 much of the normal myometrial flow as possible.

11 [Slide.]

12 Why does this work? Well, each leiomyoma--and

13 this is from work from Sampson actually back

14 in 1912, was one of the first, and then there have

15 been others since--each leiomyoma parasitizes

16 normal myometrial branches and converts them

17 essentially to fibroid feeding vessels, and these

18 branches supply only the leiomyoma and are in

19 vessels. They don't have a collateral network.

20 That makes them particularly attractive for

21 embolization because once you block those

22 individual branches, there is no other way for

23 those fibroids to get blood supply.

24 As you all know, the fibroid, as it grows,

25 it tends to compress the normal myometrium adjacent

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1 to it, and that normal myometrium continues to

2 derive its blood supply from other branches, and

3 these vessels are an order of magnitude smaller

4 than those that are feeding the leiomyoma, which

5 allows us to embolize the leiomyoma branches while

6 avoiding most of the myometrial branches.

7 There also is a very rich collateral

8 network for those myometrial branches.

9 MRI studies have shown after uterine

10 embolization that the fibroids infarct with

11 preservation of the perfusion of the normal

12 myometrium in almost all cases even if the uterine

13 arteries are completely occluded, which is the

14 approach of some operators still.

15 [Slide.]

16 This is how we do this. This is a digital

17 roadmap of the left hypergastic artery, and you can

18 see the arrow--it is a little difficult to see--but

19 the origin of the uterine artery, the uterine

20 artery usually is very tortuous. This is few

21 minutes later when we are in that patient's artery.

22 We would move the catheter down to about

23 there in order to do the embolization, so it is

24 right before it begins to ascend in the serosa of

25 the uterus, and this is what it looks like.

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1 [Slide.]

2 Now, these are Georgetown pictures, which

3 means you are going to see both sides projected

4 simultaneously, which is the way we do this, but

5 you can see there is a left uterine artery here,

6 right here, and these are all these abnormal blood

7 vessels.

8 [Slide.]

9 This is what it looks like after we have

10 done a PVA embolization. We can see some normal

11 myometrial branches here, but essentially, all the

12 fibroid branches, which are the abnormal large

13 branches, are occluded.

14 [Slide.]

15 This is a case using the microspheres.

16 There is a large leiomyoma right here. These are

17 mostly normal myometrial branches.

18 [Slide.]

19 This is what this looks like afterwards.

20 We have normal myometrial flow still here, some

21 here, but the fibroid itself is devascularized, and

22 that is the goal, that is our endpoint that we are

23 looking for.

24 [Slide.]

25 Now, this is an MRI we performed early in

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1 our experience in a patient about 48 hours after

2 embolization, because she was having significant

3 pain, and I was concerned that we had actually

4 injured her uterus. I think it was more a matter

5 of pain management in her particular case.

6 Regardless, you can see here in this, what

7 is called a TIW image, there is a slight increase

8 in signal here and here, and that is

9 microhemorrhage within the fibroids. That

10 indicates hemorrhagic infarction.

11 This is a post-contrast image. You can

12 see completely avascular two fibroids. This is the

13 cervix down here, and this is the outline of the

14 myometrium. You can see that the rest of it is

15 normally perfused. This patient, after a few doses

16 of morphine, was fine and was able to be

17 discharged, and she went on without difficulty.

18 This was one of our early experiences in

19 terms of what actually usually happens, and there

20 have been groups that have presented from Mass.

21 General and other places, that have shown that it

22 is very rare to have any significant injury to the

23 normal myometrium. It can happen, but it is

24 unusual.

25 [Slide.]

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1 What pathologic changes do we see? There

2 is ischemic infarction of the leiomyomata. In

3 general, the normal myometrium is spared. The

4 leiomyoma shrinks as a result of hyaline

5 degeneration. Degeneration continues for months to

6 years, and as in this particular case, both large

7 and small leiomyomas were infarcted.

8 In this patient, who underwent an elective

9 hysterectomy for other reasons, she was having

10 actually adnexal surgery and elected to have a

11 myomectomy eight months after the procedure.

12 She had a 1 centimeter fibroid, which was

13 infarcted, and she had a 6 centimeter fibroid which

14 was completely infarcted. So, generally, it works

15 on all the leiomyoma that are present.

16 [Slide.]

17 If one were to look at the series that

18 have been published, most of these have been

19 published since the last meeting of the panel. It

20 is impossible to read this, which is why I will

21 summarize it here.

22 This is a nine-case series. They are

23 peer-reviewed publications with a minimum of 40

24 patients excluding duplicate reports, because there

25 are a number of series which report, and then

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1 report on subsequent data.

2 So, we have a total of 1,109 patients in

3 those series. There is a mean follow-up of 5 to 29

4 months. Menorrhagia was improved in 79 to 96

5 percent. You can see pelvic pain was improved in a

6 similar percentage.

7 Leiomyoma volume reduction: at initial

8 follow-up, it ranged from 20 to 55 percent. So, 20

9 percent was in a series checked at two months, the

10 60 percent, I think that is the number I can see

11 from across the room, was our own experience where

12 we actually provided free MRIs in a large number of

13 patients at a year in order to assess that.

14 Among those 1,109 patients, there were

15 reported 7 hysterectomies for complications, which

16 is a 0.6 percent rate.

17 [Slide.]

18 This is what happens. This again is some

19 experience from Georgetown, where we showed that

20 the blue is the uterine volume, it's about 50

21 percent reduced to two years on average. The green

22 is the dominant fibroid, the largest fibroid, and

23 it's 43 percent on average at three months, it's

24 about 60 percent here, and it's about 78 percent at

25 two years.

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1 Now, this is widely variable, and one of

2 the points I would make is that looking at volume

3 reduction really is a very poor measure of outcome.

4 If we are going to use imaging characteristics, we

5 might want to look at perfusion-related MRI or

6 regions of interest, because there are substantial

7 inter-observer variability associated with the

8 measurement of both uterine volume, particularly in

9 large multi-fibroid uteri and also in the

10 leiomyomas themselves.

11 We have ever had some cases in which, on

12 follow-up studies, the dominant fibroid was

13 misidentified, so we are measuring actually

14 different fibroids occasionally. This is quite

15 easy to do in a large, multi-fibroid uterus. So,

16 it isn't the best means of assessing outcome.

17 [Slide.]

18 In individual cases, however, it certainly

19 is of help. Just some examples of MRIs. These are

20 all lateral views, so in every one you see, the

21 front is here, the back is here, and these are

22 lateral views of the uterus.

23 [Slide.]

24 This is one huge fibroid here. This is

25 three months out, and this is a year out. This is

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1 a bit of a close-up, but the top of the uterus used

2 to be up here, and now it is down here, and that

3 fibroid has decreased about 70 percent in volume.

4 [Slide.]

5 Here is a multi-fibroid uterus. You can

6 see multiple fibroids. There is a very large one

7 here in the fundus, multiple fibroids throughout.

8 This is three months, one year, and two years. You

9 can see that the uterus progressively is reducing.

10 Now, two years, you say, well, there is a

11 significant residual fibroid volume there, but it

12 is progressively reducing, and the interesting

13 thing is that you don't have to wait for this

14 volume decrease. Most patient's symptoms are

15 improved at three months after this procedure,

16 which was when most investigators have looked at

17 the outcome.

18 [Slide.]

19 This is one of our early experiences in

20 which we had a large, 7.5 centimeter submucosal

21 fibroid that failed hysteroscopic resection, three

22 months, one year, two years. We actually now have

23 a three-year study in this lady, and her uterus is

24 normal, and that little tiny residual fibroid that

25 was right there is gone.

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1 [Slide.]

2 I would like to talk just for a few

3 minutes about our experience. This is going to be

4 published in the July issue of Obstetrics and

5 Gynecology. Part of the reason I would like to

6 present this is it gives a little bit more detail

7 on what most investigators are seeing. I don't

8 think our results are particularly different.

9 We do have 200 patients that are being

10 reported, a minimum follow-up of 12 months and the

11 mean follow-up on this group of patients was 21

12 months, and looking at the percentages of

13 improvement, you can see that in the high 80s or 90

14 percent in terms of percentage that are improved.

15 Patients are satisfied to some degree in

16 over 90 percent of patients. Now, that is in terms

17 of symptom control.

18 [Slide.]

19 Now, if one looks at peri-procedural

20 complications again from the same source, a paper

21 that is going to be published in a month or so, you

22 can see there is a 6.5 percent rate of minor

23 complications, but basically, over half of those

24 are either ER visits or readmission for pain, and

25 probably all those occurred within the first 60 to

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1 80 patients we treated, and we have learned a lot

2 more about pain management, and we are much better

3 at it than we used to be. So, we have not really

4 had a patient return for pain management issues in

5 the last 200 or 300 patients we have treated.

6 But if you look at the other

7 complications, certainly, you can always have an

8 injury. This is a minor hematoma at the puncture

9 site, and there are a number of others, urinary

10 retention, one minor I.V. phlebitis. There are

11 complications that required at least a minimum of

12 an office visit, ER visit, or rehospitalization.

13 We did have one pulmonary embolus, which

14 occurred the day after the procedure, actually,

15 after the patient was discharged. She was

16 readmitted, diagnosed, and treated with

17 anticoagulants.

18 The interesting thing about that

19 particular patient is she was on both Aygestin,

20 which is a progesterone agent, and birth control

21 pills because she was essentially exsanguinating

22 when we did the procedure. We did it as an

23 emergency on a Friday afternoon. She was one of

24 the few patients we have seen with clotting

25 complications, and she was on a double dose of

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1 hormones.

2 [Slide.]

3 Subsequent hospitalizations and

4 gynecologic interventions. I think this is one of

5 the first series to really look at this particular

6 issue, what happens to these patients down the

7 road.

8 Well, 21 of them needed to have some

9 subsequent intervention over the course of the

10 follow-up, which was again up to, at this stage it

11 was 36 months. The numbers are a little hard to

12 read, but we had repeat embolization or angiogram

13 in two patients, and those both had ovarian supply

14 to their fibroids, which is now a known cause for

15 failure in a small group of patients.

16 Eight of these patients had complications.

17 Usually, it is related to fibroid tissue passage or

18 an infection of the endometrium which occurs

19 associated with that, or recurrent bleeding during

20 fibroid tissue passage. Any of those events might

21 require a D&C, hysteroscopic resection, or

22 hospitalization briefly.

23 We had one patient that went on to a

24 myomectomy because she was dissatisfied with the

25 degree of shrinkage on her fibroid. We did have

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1 nine hysterectomies, none for complications. Seven

2 were in patients that failed to improve. If you

3 look back on my original slide, assuming that 90

4 percent roughly are improved, well, obviously, 10

5 percent are not. Roughly half of those patients in

6 this group have gone on to hysterectomy.

7 We did have two incidental hysterectomies

8 that were performed for other gynecologic surgery.

9 [Slide.]

10 We have done a regression analysis, which

11 has been separately submitted for publication,

12 trying to determine what factors would be able to

13 predict how a patient will do.

14 It is interesting that for both uterine

15 and dominant leiomyoma volume change, there are

16 really very few predictors. There are no

17 demographic measures that we were able to see, not

18 age, not race, not anything that would predict the

19 percent volume reduction.

20 Submucosal location was more likely to

21 shrink at three months than a serosal location, but

22 not by 12 months, and so that slight advantage

23 early on with submucosal location went away.

24 Larger leiomyoma volume does predict less

25 volume reduction. If you also look at bleeding

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1 improvement, there are no predictors when adjusted

2 for volume at three months, but at 12 months, there

3 is an odds ratio of 0.87 per 100 cc increase in

4 baseline leiomyoma volume of bleeding improvement.

5 Well, what does that mean? It means that

6 by every 100 cc increase, there is a diminished

7 chance, it's 0.87 rather than 1, of bleeding

8 improvement. So, in theory, very large fibroids

9 will be less likely to improve bleeding at that

10 interval than others.

11 Having said that, the difference between

12 them is really not very strong, and I will show

13 that in a minute. There is no difference for women

14 with prior hormone therapy in terms of bleeding

15 improvement, which is one of the panel's questions,

16 and there is a trend toward greater improvement

17 with submucosal location.

18 [Slide.]

19 Now, if you look at the estimated

20 associations, improvement in one symptom does

21 highly correlate with improvement with the other

22 and satisfaction at both 3 and 12 months, of if

23 your bleeding is better, your pressure usually is

24 better, and you are generally satisfied. If you

25 are dissatisfied, obviously, your symptoms are not

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1 improving. That is almost self-evident.

2 There is a weak association noted between

3 dominant leiomyoma percent volume reduction and

4 bleeding improvement and satisfaction at three

5 months, but I think it was about 0.17 was the

6 correlation coefficient, so it is really not very

7 strong. Only bleeding improvement maintained this

8 association at 12 months. So, the associations are

9 not strong.

10 So, what they suggest is that size and

11 location have relatively little impact on outcome.

12 [Slide.]

13 Amenorrhea, which is an important topic,

14 after this procedure, it has been reported in most

15 of the series that I mentioned. It ranges from 2

16 to 15 percent at varying time intervals after the

17 procedure.

18 There is only one case series that reports

19 greater than 5 percent, and that was the

20 Northwestern experience, which was at 15 percent

21 overall.

22 Our experience, we have had 11 women out

23 of 200 that had no menstrual period at three

24 months, by three months after this procedure. Of

25 these, all three had resumed menses by six months,

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1 and three continued at 12 months. Now, one of

2 those women actually had failed UAE, was one of our

3 few failures. We actually were unable to

4 catheterize her vessels, and she was placed on Depo

5 Provera, which was why she was amenorrheic.

6 One additional woman became amenorrheic

7 six months after the procedure and remained so at

8 12 months, so presumably, she is in menopause. It

9 is a relatively low incidence of this problem in

10 our experience.

11 Now, because of that, we actually asked

12 the question, well, is there a subclinical effect

13 that we are not recognizing on ovarian function in

14 women.

15 So, what we did, although it is not a

16 perfect measure, we did a study looking at basal

17 FSH in a group of patients presenting. We

18 published this in April of this year. We saw that

19 there was no change in basal FSH in women under the

20 age of 45 at three and six months. One patient did

21 go up, but it came back down to her normal range.

22 Over the age of 45, 15 percent of patients

23 had a change from below 20 International Units to

24 above. Presumably, then, they have been moved

25 closer to menopause as a result of the procedure.

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1 Again, the youngest woman that we have had other

2 than the lady with Depo Provera that was

3 amenorrheic, was 49 at Georgetown. In almost all

4 cases that were reported are over the age of 45.

5 [Slide.]

6 Another very important issue is radiation

7 dose. I was interested in this early on. Boris

8 Niklik [ph], one of our residents, who is more

9 technically advanced than I, let's put it that way,

10 he was interested in the subject, as well, so we

11 did an initial radiation dose study about three

12 years ago. We measured by using TLDs that were

13 placed in the vagina and also in the skin a mean

14 ovarian dose of 22 centrigray or rads, a skin

15 entrance dose of about 162 centigray.

16 Mean fluoroscopy time in that study was 21

17 or almost 22 minutes. This was using an older

18 system, which was non-pulse fluoroscopy, it was

19 when we were using a unilateral embolization

20 approach meaning we would embolize one side first,

21 then the other side.

22 What does this dose mean? Well, it's

23 about 10 times the dose or maybe 15 times the dose

24 depending upon the study of diagnostic pelvic

25 radiograph procedures like barium enemas or other

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1 similar procedures. It's 0.1 to 0.006 the dose of

2 therapy for Hodgkin's disease.

3 Well, what does that mean? Well, it is

4 difficult to say, but one can actually calculate a

5 genetically significant dose, which is a measure of

6 the population impact of radiation dose, and using

7 our parameters from this study, we measured, in

8 addition to the medically significant dose of 0.005

9 mSv.

10 This represents a 2.2 percent increase in

11 the medical genetically significant dose at a 0.4

12 percent to the total genetically significant dose.

13 So, those would be the excess fetal abnormalities

14 that would occur as a result of this with broad

15 application in the population. This is a

16 population-based measure, it is not for individual

17 patients.

18 Now, because we are interested in this, we

19 actually did a phantom study and looked at a number

20 of different parameters associated with this, and

21 we were able to show that about 93 percent of the

22 radiation dose associated with this is from

23 fluoroscopy, so the key is to reduce the

24 fluoroscopic dose.

25 By doing that, we were able to, in a

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1 subsequent group of patients, measure a mean

2 ovarian dose of 9.5, a skin entrance dose of 47.

3 This is a reduction of about 60 percent of the

4 ovarian dose and over 70 percent in the skin dose.

5 What did we do different? Well, we have a

6 new system with pulse fluoroscopy, which is a huge

7 help. We use a bilateral approach. We

8 simultaneously embolize, two physicians, one on

9 each side embolize, and it significantly reduces

10 the time required.

11 We made a concerted effort to reduce

12 magnification angle 2 position. This basically cut

13 the contribution to the genetically significant

14 dose in half.

15 [Slide.]

16 So, talking specifically to the questions

17 that the FDA posed, I am looking at

18 inclusion/exclusion criteria, women on hormone

19 therapy, there are really four primary uses, and I

20 am probably overstepping my bounds as a radiologist

21 here, but there are four primary uses that we have

22 seen in patient populations for the use of

23 hormones.

24 It includes birth control, control of

25 menorrhagia, hormone replacement therapy, and

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1 control of endometriosis. Oral contraceptives and

2 progesterone may impact menstrual bleeding, and we

3 recognize that, and it may affect the measurement

4 of uterine artery embolization treatment effect.

5 If we are trying to control menorrhagia, if oral

6 contraceptives are decreasing the amount of

7 bleeding, then, we might falsely measure in error.

8 However, the error in measurement for

9 using these medications will likely be an

10 underestimate rather than an overestimate of the

11 treatment effect of UAE. If bleeding is being

12 suppressed before, and it is suppressed afterwards,

13 the delta that we will be measuring will be smaller

14 overall.

15 So, I think that if we are going to have

16 an error in the estimate that is going to occur, it

17 is going to be in the conservative direction.

18 If you look at oral contraceptives for

19 birth control in those that are on hormone

20 replacement therapy, patients can continue them

21 before and afterwards, so they can be self-controlled. The

22 treatment effect of UAE is likely

23 to far outshadow the effect of oral contraceptives.

24 Higham scores that have been reported have

25 been decreasing by about 50 percent or more

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1 regardless of birth control reviews. As I

2 mentioned in our regression analysis, prior oral

3 contraceptive use did not predict improvement of

4 bleeding or did not affect that prediction.

5 A practical issue is that patients are

6 quite resistant to stopping contraceptives or

7 estrogen replacement therapy, and in this case it

8 would be for months really, because we would have

9 to for a few months before this procedure and then

10 for months afterwards in order to participate in

11 the study, and from my own experience, I can say

12 that does limit the patient's interest in being

13 recruited into studies.

14 [Slide.]

15 For patients that are being treated for

16 menorrhagia, stopping the therapy really sometimes

17 is essentially impossible. They are really barely

18 controlled and they are oftentimes taking two

19 hormones. Eliminating these patients may prevent

20 the assessment of UAE in those that have the most

21 severe symptoms, and there can be quite dramatic

22 effects.

23 If patients stop therapy post-procedure,

24 it will likely again represent an underestimate.

25 If the bleeding is being suppressed before the

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1 procedure, and they go off the Provera, they go off

2 the birth control pills afterwards because their

3 bleeding is improved, whatever rebound effect will

4 result in an underestimation of the treatment

5 effect from the UAE, so I think again it is in the

6 conservative direction.

7 [Slide.]

8 One of my specific concerns is if we

9 eliminate patients that are on hormones, we may

10 prevent complete assessment of the safety of

11 uterine embolization. In particular, thrombotic

12 complications may be more likely in those that are

13 on hormones, and that is known from other types of

14 surgery, and obviously, patients that are on

15 hormones are at greater likelihood of

16 thromboembolic disease, and we may be masking the

17 safety of the procedure by eliminating those

18 patients, and I am quite concerned about that.

19 Most published studies of myomectomy and

20 hysterectomy have not restricted the hormone use,

21 so it is a little bit of a false measure to add

22 that in, in this particular procedure.

23 I think that the FDA should, and certainly

24 could, ask for a statistical comparison of users of

25 hormones versus non-users as part of the submission

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1 from the companies that are involved in this.

2 [Slide.]

3 In patients being treated for menorrhagia,

4 one of the questions was simple hyperplasia, it was

5 our thought that they should be excluded until

6 there has been resolution of the hyperplasia, and

7 that should be shown on repeat endometrial

8 sampling.

9 Patients with endometrial polyps should

10 also be eliminated until it has been removed.

11 [Slide.]

12 Study endpoints. Leiomyoma, as you all

13 know, cause a variety of symptoms which are very

14 broadly categorized into heavy menstrual bleeding,

15 bulk symptoms, and then the sort of undefined

16 impact they may have on fertility and pregnancy.

17 There has been relatively little study of

18 the outcome measures in this condition, which is

19 one of the things I discovered early on, it is

20 difficult to measure outcome in a woman in whom you

21 leave the uterus in place, and this has been

22 problem dogging some other procedures, as well,

23 particularly myomectomy.

24 So, I think that from my perspective, and

25 I have spent a fair amount of my research time

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1 looking at outcome measures from this, I think that

2 we should be using validated symptom and/or QOL,

3 quality of life questionnaires. Validated

4 menstrual pictorial assessment charts are also I

5 think a good way to evaluate this.

6 The volumes we should just forget. I mean

7 they are nice to know, but they really are so

8 subject to inter-observer variability, I think that

9 we are going to mislead ourselves.

10 [Slide.]

11 Pictorial blood loss assessment chart, you

12 are all familiar with Higham scores, and I know it

13 has been used for other gynecologic interventions.

14 It is being used in one of the current studies. I

15 think that these are useful, particularly if one is

16 focusing specifically on menorrhagia.

17 Now, if you are looking at broader

18 symptoms, it is not that helpful. There also is a

19 validated menorrhagia questionnaire, which has also

20 been in use by Ruta, and there are a couple of

21 different ways to go in terms of quality of life.

22 One could use a general health-related

23 quality of life questionnaire, such as the SF-36 or

24 the SF-12. We published some data on a proprietary

25 fibroid specific quality of life questionnaire, and

 

 

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1 we have just completed a combined symptom and

2 quality of life questionnaire. It is called the

3 UFS-QOL, which we are just submitting now to

4 Obstetrics and Gynecology.

5 Its intent is to be able to be used as a

6 measure of symptom severity, so one could look and

7 compare different procedures, and that was funded

8 by CIRREF, which is a research arm of the SCVIR.

9 [Slide.]

10 This is data from our sort of pilot study,

11 looking at quality of life related to uterine

12 embolization. This was using a proprietary

13 questionnaire which was fibroid specific, and you

14 can see that these are all increased in a

15 statistically significant way at three and six

16 months. The symptoms were even somewhat more

17 dramatic, particularly heavy bleeding was

18 dramatically improved here.

19 All of these were statistically

20 significant except for back pain at six months.

21 [Slide.]

22 Taking the other tack of saying, well,

23 gosh, how sensitive is even a very blunt instrument

24 in measuring outcome, the SF-12 is a 12-question

25 subset of the SF-36, and really is designed for

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1 sort of large populations, a quick, two-minute

2 questionnaire, but even using this instrument, we

3 presented this approximately a year ago, there is a

4 statistically significant increase in the physical

5 summary scores at three and six months. The one-year

6 numbers are too small to be able to be

7 interpretable.

8 [Slide.]

9 The UFS-QOL is a new symptom and health

10 related quality of life questionnaire. It has 37

11 questions, 8 symptom and 29 quality of life

12 questions. It provides a symptom score and a

13 summary HRQOL score, as well as 6 subscale scores.

14 We have just completed the validation of

15 it. This was created using focus groups and then

16 we did an expert validation. Then, we went through

17 110 fibroid patients and 30 normal patients, and it

18 has excellent internal and external validity. The

19 cross-sectional validation was very strong with the

20 other measures, and it is the primary outcome

21 measure for the fibroid registry, which you will

22 hear more about later.

23 [Slide.]

24 So, assessing outcome, we believe that

25 patients represent their own controls and each

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1 study or company or applicant should set an

2 appropriate clinically relevant level of symptom

3 change measured by validated means.

4 When possible, we think quality of life

5 scores should be included. Comparative surgical

6 and medical therapies should use the same measures.

7 I know that both these studies are comparative

8 studies.

9 It at least gives us an assessment of the

10 relative safety of the two procedures, and also

11 provides some indication of the relative

12 effectiveness, however, as has been demonstrated,

13 if one was to do a randomized trial, the estimate

14 is that this is similar in outcome to myomectomy,

15 and really, we would have to randomize hundreds of

16 patients in order to be able to adequately

17 investigate this.

18 We have actually done some pilot work

19 trying to determine how easy it would be to

20 randomize patients, and it really is quite

21 difficult. Patient resistance is quite high. I

22 think the best alternative to randomized studies,

23 which is what is going on in essence right now, are

24 parallel prospective cohort design of UAE versus

25 some other standard therapy using the same outcome

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1 measures contemporaneously.

2 [Slide.]

3 Responding to the question regarding study

4 duration, I do think that six months is an

5 appropriate duration for premarket surveillance.

6 Nearly all the complications that have been seen

7 have occurred in the first six months. Nearly all

8 the secondary events, such as amenorrhea, fibroid

9 expulsion, and early treatment failures occur in

10 the first six months, not every single one, but

11 nearly every one.

12 It is rare to have recurrence in that

13 interval, which is one of the other questions. We

14 have seen a few recurrences. Both of our

15 recurrences were well over a year and in fact, one

16 of the patients was two years after the procedure.

17 It is more important to provide postmarket

18 surveillance for a longer period than one year. We

19 would suggest surveillance for a minimum of two

20 years. The fibroid registry may be a vehicle for

21 that postmarket surveillance, and we are enrolling

22 literally hundreds of patients, and we are hoping

23 to be able to supplement whatever data that each of

24 these companies would provide with that data.

25 [Slide.]

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1 Re-treatment. I think re-treatments in

2 the context of these FDA-approved studies should be

3 considered primary failures, although these

4 patients should continued to be followed and look

5 at the subsequent treatments and outcomes. I think

6 it is useful data.

7 Technically unsuccessful procedures should

8 also be considered failures unless the procedure is

9 terminated or postponed for safety or other valid

10 reasons, the patient has some reaction to a

11 medication or something else during the sedation.

12 That really should not be considered a failure,

13 maybe noted, but not a failure.

14 But if we are unable to successfully

15 complete the embolization as intended the first

16 day, with that caveat, those should be considered

17 failures, we think.

18 [Slide.]

19 There was a question regarding labeling

20 elements. Obviously, future fertility is one key

21 issue, and there are some practical issues, which I

22 have discovered over the last four or five years

23 dealing with this group of patients.

24 Many women, even though we think they may

25 have, many women do not really have clear plans for

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1 or against future children. Some women are very

2 definite, some women are very vague. You can have

3 a 33-year-old woman who isn't really quite sure

4 what she wants to do, you will have a 48-year-old

5 woman who definitely wants to become pregnant.

6 What do you do with that situation?

7 So, arbitrarily eliminating patients based

8 on a yes or no related to future children is really

9 not practical. The safety of myomectomy for future

10 childbearing varies greatly depending on the

11 surgical skill and the extent of fibroids.

12 Obviously, there is a conversion rate to

13 hysterectomy which is quite low, but certainly it

14 has never really been well studied in terms of its

15 overall safety.

16 Many patients desiring future children

17 have had one or more previous myomectomies, and

18 really are referred to us by infertility

19 specialists saying there is not going to be

20 anything left unless we go forward, so I think we

21 have to have a broader context where we are making

22 these decisions.

23 There have been numerous successful

24 pregnancies after a UAE, but the rate is not known.

25 We are hoping to get that answer from the registry.

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1 The fetal wastage rate is also unknown. The role

2 of fibroids and fertility problems is still

3 unclear, it is very difficult to study, and the

4 effectiveness of myomectomy as a infertility

5 operation is not well studied. It has been

6 studied, but they are not large series. They have

7 been relatively poorly controlled. It is a very

8 difficult thing to assess.

9 Many women really resent their choice of

10 therapies being limited without their consent, and

11 would like to make their own decision after

12 obtaining appropriate information.

13 [Slide.]

14 So, the recommendations that we would make

15 are the following: that labeling should contain a

16 warning that the effect that UAE may have on future

17 childbearing is unknown, but that the data to

18 support myomectomy is also limited. This is not a

19 black and white thing in which myomectomy always

20 allows you to have a child and UAE doesn't. It is

21 much, much more difficult than that.

22 Each patient should be carefully assessed

23 to determine which therapy is most likely to

24 preserve the uterus in a functional state and with

25 the least risk of hysterectomy.

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1 UAE should not currently be used as an

2 infertility treatment. Determination of the

3 effectiveness of UAE versus myomectomy for

4 infertile women does require I think a randomized

5 trial, and this is the one area I think we actually

6 could get patients to allow themselves to be

7 randomized because it is a very clear legitimate

8 question, and we will eventually have to answer

9 that question.

10 [Slide.]

11 So, I would conclude by saying that while

12 the current published experience suggests that UAE

13 is effective in controlling symptoms and improving

14 health-related quality of life, these comparative

15 studies that the FDA has approved are really a

16 major step forward in the assessment of this

17 therapy.

18 These are well designed studies. They are

19 being monitored in a very appropriate way, and I

20 think that this is a big help in the evaluation of

21 this treatment.

22 The role of the FDA is important, but

23 other efforts including those of the fibroid

24 registry and the adoption of uniform validated

25 means of measuring outcome are also critical, and

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1 we are very strong proponents of physician

2 education and training standards to ensure that

3 this is done safely in a broader practice.

4 Thank you.

5 DR. BLANCO: Thank you, Dr. Spies.

6 Any questions of fact at this point? We

7 are running a bit late.

8 DR. D'AGOSTINO: In the quality of life

9 scale, the UFS quality of life, you said it was

10 validated. What was it validated against?

11 DR. SPIES: First of all, we started, as I

12 said, with focus groups, and then we had expert

13 review by gynecologists, and then we went through

14 an iterative process, so it is validated against

15 internally consistent, but externally validated

16 against the SF-36, against the Ruta menorrhagia

17 questionnaire, against the ReVikki Wu sexual

18 functioning scale. I think those are the three.

19 DR. D'AGOSTINO: So, it is not validated

20 against some physical activity or measurement, and

21 so forth, it is other quality of life--

22 DR. SPIES: It has not been measured

23 against, for example, severity of menstrual

24 bleeding. It has also, I am sorry, been validated

25 against physician and patient self-assessment of

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1 severity of symptoms.

2 DR. D'AGOSTINO: Part of it is symptoms

3 and part of it is quality of life.

4 DR. SPIES: Eight questions are symptoms,

5 29 are quality of life.

6 DR. D'AGOSTINO: When you say it is

7 validated, are you talking about the whole thing?

8 DR. SPIES: The whole thing is validated.

9 DR. D'AGOSTINO: Do you know what drives

10 the validation? I mean is it the symptoms or the

11 quality of life?

12 DR. SPIES: Well, it reliably

13 distinguishes the scores, reliably distinguishes

14 the severity of symptoms and the severity of the

15 impact on quality of life. It reliably

16 distinguishes fibroid patients from normals, and it

17 reliably distinguishes patients with severe

18 symptoms by self-assessment of these other measures

19 from those with milder symptoms. This will be

20 submitted to Obstetrics and Gynecology actually

21 this week, it is just being mailed out.

22 So, there will be an opportunity to review

23 this at greater length. This was done with Med Tap

24 International as our consultant, and they designed

25 the study.

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1 DR. D'AGOSTINO: Just one other question.

2 What triggers the re-treatment? I am trying to

3 sort out why they are failures.

4 DR. SPIES: Well, it is not clearly known.

5 In other words, we haven't restudied every single

6 patient that fails to improve. I think there are a

7 number of possibilities. One is misdiagnosis, the

8 patient may have an endometrial polyp that might be

9 missed, and that may be the cause of their

10 bleeding, so you have to assess patients carefully.

11 There may be incomplete embolization, the

12 fibroid may not infarct, and we have shown that if

13 you don't infarct the fibroid, you are unlikely to

14 get improvement.

15 One of the primary reasons that happens is

16 collateral flow from the ovarian arteries, and we

17 have seen that in 2, 3, 4 percent of patients.

18 DR. D'AGOSTINO: What I am wondering, is

19 it the procedure or do the physicians do something

20 wrong?

21 DR. SPIES: No, many times it is related

22 to anatomic variation of patients. It may also be

23 due to the embolic material used or the way it was

24 delivered. It could be a combination of either,

25 but there are some anatomic factors which will

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1 cause you to fail.

2 If a substantial portion of the uterus or

3 the fibroids are supplied by the ovarian arteries,

4 it will fail unless you embolize the ovarian

5 arteries, which no one regularly advocates in any

6 way. So, there are reasons to fail on this, and

7 the two that we re-angio'd, both had significant

8 supply from the ovarian arteries, which was

9 undetected at the initial study.

10 DR. BLANCO: Let me go ahead and interrupt

11 because we are really going to run late, and let's

12 introduce our other speaker, and hopefully, we will

13 go ahead and try to catch up on time.

14 Thank you very much, Dr. Spies.

15 The next speaker is Dr. Matthew Mauro from

16 the University of North Carolina, I believe also

17 representing the Society of Cardiovascular and

18 Interventional Radiology.

19 Matthew Mauro, M.D.

20 DR. MAURO: Thank you. We certainly

21 appreciate the opportunity to address this

22 committee, and I ask your indulgence for several

23 more minutes.

24 DR. BLANCO: I am sorry, introduce

25 conflict of interest.

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1 DR. MAURO: No conflict of interest.

2 My purpose is really to highlight the

3 major efforts of the Society regarding its

4 activities, and that really leads us to the Uterine

5 Artery Embolization Fibroid Registry.

6 [Slide.]

7 To date, we estimate that worldwide there

8 has been 10,000 to probably more like 15,000

9 procedures done, the majority of which have been

10 done in the United States although the procedure

11 was begun in Europe. Approximately, 40 major

12 complications have been reported, one death in the

13 United States, two other deaths reported in Europe.

14 Typically, at the beginning these

15 procedures have been performed in high-volume

16 institutions, but recently we have noted that it

17 has been migrated out into the community and

18 community hospitals.

19 [Slide.]

20 You can see here that the growth has been

21 relatively impressive over 1999, where

22 approximately 4,000 cases have been done, to an

23 aggregate total U.S. procedures of 8,600 in the

24 year 2000.

25 [Slide.]

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1 In April of 1999, the SCVIR developed a

2 task force to investigate and evaluate the uterine

3 artery embolization procedure. We developed a

4 multifaceted approach which looked at standards,

5 research initiatives, physician education, and

6 other activities.

7 [Slide.]

8 Training standards was an important part

9 of this multifaceted approach. In January of 2001,

10 the SCVIR published in the JVIR training standards

11 for physicians and also equipment relating to this

12 procedure.

13 The physicians must be very highly

14 educated and trained in this technically skilled

15 procedure. Embolotherapy is probably one of the

16 most challenging procedures that interventional

17 radiologists perform, and most interventional

18 radiologists perform this from head to toe on a

19 daily basis.

20 [Slide.]

21 In addition to the training skills,

22 optimal equipment is required as highlighted by the

23 marked reduction in radiation dose from antiquated

24 equipment, which uses continuous high-dose

25 fluoroscopy to the more standard used state-of-the-art

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1 equipment, which uses pulse fluoroscopy, and

2 give you an idea of what the significance is by

3 using continuous fluoroscopy that utilizes

4 radiation at 60 pulses per second where we now can

5 use routinely 7.5 pulses per second using this

6 pulse-dosed, which is a reduction of 7/8ths of the

7 dose, so it is a very important aspect of the

8 performance of this procedure.

9 In conjunction with that radiation safety

10 training, which is a part of all radiologists'

11 training, it is an important requirement when using

12 radiation-producing equipment.

13 [Slide.]

14 Reporting standards has also been

15 developed and will be published soon, and this is

16 intended to serve as a guideline for investigators,

17 not only interventional radiologists, but perhaps

18 for all other investigators in the treatment of

19 fibroids.

20 [Slide.]

21 Research initiatives have been developed

22 in conjunction with the Rand Health Service, where

23 a multidisciplinary expert panel was convened in

24 June of 1999, and this panel identified several key

25 outcome measures to be investigated and recommended

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1 four areas of research.

2 The first was a prospective registry,

3 which I will comment on further. The second was a

4 disease-specific QOL instrument, which has been

5 accomplished.

6 The third recommendation was a randomized

7 clinical trial. Two attempts were made to date for

8 a randomized clinical trial. One was UAE versus

9 hormonal therapy, and UAE versus myomectomy. Both

10 projects failed to receive adequate rating to be

11 funded. The fourth area of research was a cost

12 study.

13 The CIRREF, which is the research arm of

14 the SCVIR, has already funded five research grants

15 dealing with ovarian function, the quality of life

16 instrument, and the effect on the endometrium.

17 [Slide.]

18 The registry is an ongoing effort which we

19 are very proud of. It is sponsored jointly by the

20 SCVIR and its research arm CIRREF. It has a

21 registry steering committee. The principal

22 investigator of the committee is Evan Myers, who is

23 an obstetrical gynecologist from Duke, of the Duke

24 Clinical Research Institute. The DCRI is the body

25 that we are working with in order to conduct this

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1 clinical survey, a very reputable research

2 institute.

3 All IRs with subspecialty training are

4 performing these procedures, and we do have

5 industry sponsors.

6 [Slide.]

7 The primary objective of the registry is

8 really to collect very high quality information

9 regarding patient safety and effectiveness for this

10 procedure. We would like to assess the durability

11 of the embolization, its impact on fertility, as

12 well as the quality of life in general.

13 The secondary objectives would be to

14 assess and benchmark for clinical practice

15 patterns, and to evaluate the utilization for

16 patients undergoing this procedure.

17 [Slide.]

18 This is an observational database, and our

19 intent was to collect consecutive patients

20 undergoing this procedure, and we would emphasize

21 to our members participating in this registry that

22 we would like to capture every case performed.

23 We estimate that our sample size would

24 include 3,000 patients per year, and for our

25 prolonged longitudinal follow-up study,

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1 approximately 900 patients per year.

2 [Slide.]

3 All patients enrolled will have baseline

4 data, as well as procedural data, 30-day data

5 entered into a web-based form. There will be

6 patients enrolled at 24 core sites, which will be

7 considered for follow-up study at 6, 12, and 24

8 months. This constitutes our longitudinal study.

9 They will be randomly sampled and undergo

10 a quality of life instrument evaluating patient

11 satisfaction. All patients intending subsequent

12 pregnancy will be involved in this longitudinal

13 study.

14 [Slide.]

15 As I said, it is being coordinated by the

16 DCRI. We intend to have relatively broad inclusion

17 criteria as this is an observational database and

18 therefore patients choosing to participate and have

19 signed an informed consent has symptomatic fibroids

20 documented by an imaging study, and obviously is 21

21 years or older.

22 [Slide.]

23 We have several short term outcomes that

24 are being measured. Baseline data is relatively

25 exhaustive, and that is one of the principal

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1 purposes of this registry, is to obtain consistent

2 and important data regarding the procedure, as well

3 as procedural data and the variety of adverse

4 events that may occur.

5 Thirty-day follow-up will be required from

6 all registrants, and the long-term outcomes again

7 will be in a group hopefully numbering 900 patients

8 per year. This will be a relatively intense review

9 for long-term outcomes and currently we have

10 funding that will lead to a 24-month follow-up.

11 [Slide.]

12 In conclusion, this has been a large

13 effort from the Society, and the registry will

14 provide long-term data on the use of this procedure

15 for the treatment of fibroids including evidence of

16 safety, efficacy, and durability, the impact on

17 uterine and ovarian function, fertility, and

18 quality of life.

19 We anticipate having a full 24 months at

20 the current level of funding of approximately 450

21 patients and 12-month follow-up data for

22 approximately 1,350 patients.

23 Thank you very much.

24 DR. BLANCO: Thank you very much, Dr.

25 Mauro.

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1 Are there any questions of fact?

2 [No response.]

3 DR. BLANCO: Thank you very much for

4 concentrating your presentation. We appreciate.

5 Now we come to the open public forum. We

6 have some folks that have asked to speak.

7 We will with Dr. Vikki Hufnagel from

8 Studio City, California. I believe she is on the

9 speaker phone, is that correct? Dr. Hufnagel, are

10 you there?

11 DR. HUFNAGEL: Yes, I am.

12 DR. BLANCO: We would ask you to go ahead

13 and state your name and any conflict of interest,

14 and also, please limit your remarks to five

15 minutes.

16 Go right ahead. We are here listening.

17 Open Public Hearing

18 DR. HUFNAGEL: (By telephone) Number one,

19 there is no financial relationship. There is a

20 conflict of interest in that I am an extremely

21 biased and extremely opinionated individual, so

22 that the panel will know that.

23 DR. BLANCO: Thank you for advising us of

24 that.

25 DR. HUFNAGEL: The general destruction of

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1 normal uterine tissue is the result of uterine

2 artery embolization. To hear in this meeting that

3 after the fact, 10,000 cases have already been

4 performed and now a registry is going to occur is

5 extremely distressing to myself and to many women

6 who would hear this, but this is typical of the

7 types of evaluations of procedures that goes on.

8 I think this is partially from our

9 culturalization that the uterus is an organ which

10 we can eliminate easily. You need to look at your

11 social concepts when you think about the uterus.

12 The uterus has physiological function that include

13 sexual response, creation of hormones, substances,

14 inhibin, relaxin, prostacyclins. It is also an

15 organ of placement in the pelvis.

16 In speaking out, I will be attacked in

17 presenting a case that I recently did of Achieng

18 Wamabo, who is, by the way, one of 10 patients that

19 I selected to bring to you today, 10 patients who

20 all had very bad outcomes with uterine artery

21 embolization, 10 patients who were never reported

22 to the FDA, 10 patients who were never followed up.

23 Achieng Wamabo described her uterine

24 artery embolization in one word, "fast." She was

25 seen at one of the major sites in which this was

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1 being performed. In 1998, she had a Lupron

2 injection. Ten days after that injection, she had

3 an emboli shower in her lungs and nearly died from

4 the pulmonary emboli. That was 1998.

5 She was told that the Lupron would be

6 helpful in her procedure for her embolization later

7 on. In 1999, she had her embolization. That

8 embolization operative report is very

9 contradictory. That operative report says that

10 both arteries were embolized. Then, it says only

11 one artery was embolized.

12 Her physicians who handled her pulmonary

13 emboli refused to give her her medical records.

14 The physicians who saw her, both the radiologist

15 and gynecologist, were well known to this

16 committee. Both made no notations whatsoever in

17 her medical workup that this woman already suffered

18 a significant pulmonary emboli in 1998. There

19 actually was relatively little workup, and she was

20 pushed in one day from the gynecologist to the

21 radiologist to have this procedure done.

22 This is consistent with 10 cases that I

23 have reviewed recently. What is of major

24 importance is that there is a lack of workup, a

25 lack of informed consent. All the negatives for

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1 uterine artery embolization are not--let me repeat--are not

2 being discussed with the patients. Women

3 are not told that they may not be able to have a

4 myomectomy in the future.

5 Having been able to actually see the

6 tissue results as a surgeon, I was able to see that

7 the resulting myometrium, normal myometrium is

8 severely affected by uterine artery embolization,

9 and selection of patients who have very, very large

10 uteruses, which you know the reduction is not going

11 to be down to a normal size uterus, and the woman

12 is going to be still left with a large mass, makes

13 these poor candidates. Yet, these women are still

14 having uterine artery embolizations.

15 There was no dissection line in the

16 removal of Achieng's fibroid. There was no

17 capsule. What occurs is microabscess formation,

18 histiocytic clumping, fibrosis, and other tissue

19 reactions, which actually removed the capsule.

20 The hallmark for a myomectomy is the

21 ability to distinguish between normal and abnormal

22 tissue during your dissection. This is gone with

23 uterine artery embolization, and women are not

24 being told this.

25 I have great concerns over the lack of

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1 adequate informed consent. I have great concerns

2 that there is so much silence on this. Why was

3 this case not presented? Why did the FDA not get

4 any reports on it? Ten women have now reported

5 major complications that have never been reported

6 to the FDA.

7 Women need to have surgical options, as

8 well. Myomectomy needs to come out of the dark

9 ages, and we need to approve it. Uterine artery

10 embolization probably has a place, however, the

11 widespread entrepreneurial selling of this

12 procedure when women are scared and frightened, are

13 told they have no other option other than a

14 hysterectomy, just sending them in to get an

15 embolization without full knowledge of all the

16 problems that can happen.

17 Radiation exposure still an issue, I

18 believe. Toxin exposure, another issue. The lack

19 of follow-up. Every one of the women who have come

20 and reported have never even had an ultrasound

21 after their uterine artery embolization. Their

22 uterus just shrunk, they were sent on their way,

23 and no follow-up. These are clinical crisis.

24 Achieng Wamabo will be sending her report

25 in. She will be leaving the hospital next week,

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1 having had more than 50 fibroid tumors removed. It

2 was a difficult surgery, and this is my expertise.

3 I do more myomectomies than anyone I have ever met,

4 and I had a difficult time doing it.

5 Would we embolize a neoplasia on the

6 testes? I doubt it. What are we thinking about

7 when we are promoting these kinds of processes

8 without looking at all the issues and providing

9 them to the women?

10 This is being sold to women, it is being

11 marketed. There are actual contracts between women

12 who are writing books and working for university

13 hospitals, and are getting funding for their web

14 sites. None of these web sites have any advocacy

15 section. None of these web sites have any area

16 except for one, one web site has an area to report

17 problems with AUE.

18 The marketing aspect of this is enormous,

19 and it is doing well, obviously, by looking at the

20 graphs and the data. The problem is that some

21 women have suffered, and others will continue to

22 suffer because of the fact that this is so fast,

23 there is a lack of procedural protocol, and the

24 response to the tissue of the myometrial normal

25 tissue and its destruction is not being adequately

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1 provided to the women prior to this procedure.

2 I do not like this procedure and the way

3 in which it has evolved whatsoever, and I conclude.

4 DR. BLANCO: Thank you, Dr. Hufnagel.

5 The next individual who has requested time

6 for public comment is Carla Dione--I apologize if

7 that is not right--Executive Director, National

8 Uterine Fibroids Foundation.

9 Again, please state any conflict of

10 interest and limit your remarks to five minutes.

11 [No response.]

12 DR. BLANCO: It appears that she is not

13 here.

14 The last one that I have or that we will

15 open it to the audience if there is anyone else is

16 Nora W. Coffey, President, Hysterectomy Educational

17 Resources and Services Foundation (HERS).

18 MS. COFFEY: Good afternoon. I am Nora

19 Coffey, President of the Hysterectomy Educational

20 Resources and Services Foundation, a national

21 nonprofit women's health education organization.

22 HERS is also the repository of thousands of reports

23 from women regarding the treatment they receive and

24 have had suggested to them by physicians.

25 I am going to truncate what I intended to

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1 say today in the interest of time, but I am still

2 going to I guess rush through.

3 Research of the medical literature

4 revealed that UAE was a surgery that had been

5 performed on a small number of women for postpartum

6 hemorrhage initially and at risk of death. It is

7 now being performed on women notably absent from

8 any danger to life and often even lacking the

9 minimal symptoms for which any treatment might

10 rationally be suggested.

11 Since UAE first emerged, the pool of so-called

12 qualified UAE candidates has shrunk as the

13 obvious dangers of performing it in certain women

14 has become apparent, but the number and seriousness

15 of adverse effects has mounted and now sits well

16 outside the promised no complications, and from the

17 hint that there might be pain as a result for a

18 very short time requiring the possibility of

19 hospital admission for treatment, we now know that

20 many or most do have pain and others have

21 persistent, some severe pain for months and even

22 years later as a permanent complication.

23 All this has been learned, not from

24 laboratory science before exposing large numbers of

25 women, but from the ill effects suffered by women

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1 who expected that this was an easy and trouble-free

2 solution to the problems that some, but not the

3 majority, of women encounter from fibroids.

4 Our office continues to receive calls from

5 women unsuspecting of these facts including one who

6 doctor told her that he would perform the procedure

7 on her. When she asked how many UAE he had

8 performed, he said he hadn't performed any, but he

9 had read about it, and he was sure that he could do

10 it.

11 Another woman who underwent UAE reported

12 that she had developed a foul vaginal odor,

13 obviously not only to herself, but to others. She

14 had an infection. When it was exposed at surgery,

15 had appeared to simmer for months, and had caused

16 adhesion of the bowel to the uterus and other

17 organs, requiring that a specialist come in mid-operating

18 procedure, and there are many other

19 reports. I am going to skip over the women's

20 reports, although I think they are really

21 important, and I wish I had time to show them.

22 You all know of similar problems which

23 have not yet appeared in the journals, although

24 none of us know how large the total numbers are or

25 will become from this experimental misadventure.

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1 Uterine artery embolization has already

2 caused deaths, hysterectomies, infections,

3 cessation of menstrual periods, rehospitalization,

4 and other damage that was unexpected by women, all

5 in a scant few years.

6 This leads to the expectation that there

7 is more in terms of numbers and additional

8 consequences not yet identified. We ask then of

9 the FDA the following:

10 If you have the authority to confer

11 approval on a surgical procedure, and thus confer

12 its legitimacy, although there are no standards

13 that exist for doctors, materials, or other

14 instrumentation, and no uniform procedure to

15 assess, that you exercise your authority and

16 responsibility to require that vendors, doctors,

17 and other proponents for widespread use of UAE curb

18 advertising and publicity which makes it appear

19 that all the answers are in and that they are

20 uniformly positive.

21 There is a public health danger posed by

22 the self-promoting web sites and publicity in media

23 generated by doctors and other commercial

24 interests, such as the manufacturers, inventors of

25 devices who advocate for UAE.

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1 Unfortunately, the biological sequela

2 arising as a result of this procedure will be

3 learned on the bodies of women, many of whom, as in

4 the case with hysterectomy, have no medical need

5 for any treatment whatsoever, and the argument that

6 hysterectomy is worse does not make UAE better,

7 only different in its dangers, which are as yet

8 largely unknown.

9 What are the lifetime sequela of the long-term

10 effects on ovarian function, endocrine

11 function, and the implications for vascular and the

12 immune systems?

13 If the permanence of artery occlusion

14 causes concerns, there are equal concerns lest the

15 blockade degrade or partially separate and drift.

16 What women need is a return to laboratory

17 science in order to identify the reasons women

18 develop fibroids, so that their arteries, uteri,

19 and other organs not be targets of interference and

20 demolition.

21 A name change, changing from uterine

22 artery embolization to UFE, uterine fibroid

23 embolization, will not serve women well. In fact,

24 it raises more questions about the problems we have

25 not yet read about in the journals and those yet to

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1 come.

2 Calling it fibroid embolization rather

3 than artery embolization is an evasion and

4 ultimately misleading to women because it is, in

5 fact, the arteries that are embolized.

6 If clinical trials do proceed, and

7 apparently they are already in progress, we suggest

8 that women be provided with the following: Full

9 written disclosure of the known risks and adverse

10 consequences of UAE. An opportunity to ask

11 questions in writing, which doctors will respond to

12 in writing, and signed and date.

13 An adverse events reporting form should be

14 provided to the woman undergoing embolization, in

15 triplicate, with a copy to go to her doctor, a copy

16 to go to the FDA, and a copy for the patient.

17 Disclosure should include deaths,

18 sterility, radiation to the ovaries, infection,

19 loss of menstruation, hematoma, allergy to contrast

20 material, failure to shrink fibroids or resolve

21 symptoms, regrowth of fibroids, growth of new

22 fibroids, post-embolization syndrome, damage to

23 nerves, embolization of the wrong arteries, damage

24 to the blood supply to the ovaries, and loss of

25 libido, loss of sexual feeling.

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1 Women should be told of all of the

2 alternatives to hysterectomy including no treatment

3 at all, myomectomy, and hysteroscopic resection of

4 submucosal fibroids.

5 Currently, a large number of doctors tell

6 women that the only option they have available to

7 them is hysterectomy or UAEE, which is certainly

8 not the case.

9 Thank you.

10 DR. BLANCO: Thank you very much.

11 Is there anyone else in the audience that

12 would like to address the panel before we begin our

13 deliberations?

14 I am sorry, who is this?

15 MS. BOOKER: (By telephone) My name is

16 Susan Booker.

17 DR. BLANCO: Okay. Please state any

18 conflict of interest statement and limit your

19 remarks to five minutes, please.

20 MS. BOOKER: I don't believe there is a

21 financial conflict of interest. I am not, I guess

22 you would say, pro uterine artery embolism. I am

23 surprised that the name is being changed to uterine

24 fibroid embolism or occlusion.

25 The surgery is going to be known as a

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1 barbaric surgery in 20 years when doctors look back

2 on the damage that is going to happen to women, and

3 if the numbers of women being victimized by this

4 surgery, if it was the same numbers of men, the FDA

5 would take an immediate stance and halt until a

6 follow-up is done on the women who have already

7 gone through uterine artery embolism.

8 A complete, full follow-up on the women

9 who have had uterine artery embolism needs to be

10 done now immediately.

11 I have great concerns on the number who

12 have been injured, and I understand that a similar

13 situation took place years ago with the ova block,

14 which has never been fully recalled, women still

15 have not been informed, and that is an unresolved

16 issue in its own.

17 I conclude.

18 DR. BLANCO: Before you conclude, may we

19 ask you, are you speaking as an individual or do

20 you represent an organization or have an

21 affiliation with an organization?

22 MS. BOOKER: At the moment I am speaking

23 on my own, as an individual. I am a member of NOW.

24 I work on health right issues, and I am a house

25 advocate.

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1 DR. BLANCO: Thank you very much.

2 Anyone else in the audience?

3 [No response.]

4 DR. BLANCO: We will then begin the panel

5 discussion, and I would like to go ahead and have

6 Dr. Levy address some issues, and then we will go

7 through the discussion questions.

8 Panel Discussion

9 DR. LEVY: First of all, I would like to

10 congratulate the Society of Cardiovascular and

11 Interventional Radiology for putting forth this

12 huge amount of effort in trying to study the

13 science of this procedure.

14 I think that you have gone far beyond what

15 most medical organizations and societies have done

16 in the efforts to try to learn something about this

17 procedure and to put some of the comments in

18 context.

19 I really say congratulations. There is a

20 huge amount of effort here, and there is an effort

21 to study a new procedure, far beyond what we, in

22 medical science, have done with any of the

23 operative procedures that we have currently in

24 place for women, so congratulations, and I think

25 every effort is being made to study this as

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1 scientifically as possible, and I am in absolute

2 agreement with you.

3 I must say that I agree with most of the

4 speakers' comments in terms of the FDA questions.

5 I agree with consistent use of hormones pre-procedure, post-

6 procedure. I don't think we should

7 exclude patients who are on hormones, but I think

8 that we should keep them consistent across the time

9 that we are studying, so that we don't get shifts

10 and differences that we can't attribute to the

11 interventional procedure. I think that is very

12 important.

13 I think that quality of life

14 questionnaires should be done early on if we are

15 really going to be able to use these data to inform

16 women. Then, we need to be able to compare uterine

17 artery embolization with myomectomy, with

18 hysterectomy, and that means the quality of life in

19 the first day, second day, the first seven days,

20 two weeks, three weeks, and a month, two months

21 later.

22 I don't know if that can be done within

23 the context of some of the studies or as a substudy

24 of some of what you are doing, but as a practicing

25 gynecologist who tries to give informed consent to

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1 patients, I know there is a lot of pain with

2 uterine artery embolization, there is certainly a

3 lot of pain with surgery initially, and I don't

4 know how to compare the two.

5 I think it would be very valuable to have

6 some of these quality of life surveys done at 24

7 hours, 48 hours, perhaps from there to a week post-op, so

8 that we have some sense of when the return

9 to function really occurs, not in retrospect, but

10 on a prospective basis. That would be very useful

11 information to me.

12 I agree with doing a six-month study and

13 then continuing surveillance for two years. I

14 think two years is a very short period of time, and

15 there is a lot of information I personally, as a

16 woman, and as a gynecologist giving informed

17 consent would want to have about this procedure

18 long term.

19 Whether we can persist with a registry

20 after the two years, I don't know, but it is

21 something that would be of interest. Many of these

22 patients will not become pregnant within two years.

23 Some of them may become pregnant five

24 years out or 10 years out, and whether there is an

25 opportunity for us to take the study and continue

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1 an ongoing registry where patients could just log

2 on and be able to give us further information, I

3 think that would be very useful.

4 The things that concern me are things like

5 radiation exposure to the ovaries in a young woman,

6 are we going to precipitate premature menopause in

7 these women, not immediately, but five years down

8 the road. You know, are we impairing ovarian

9 function with the amount of radiation that we are

10 using, are we going to generate cancers, other

11 things with the amount of radiation.

12 I think certainly in the radiological

13 literature, you have enough data on things like

14 barium enemas and other things to give us some

15 reassurance about that, but these are situations in

16 which we are electively using radiation, so I want

17 to make sure, and I think in your effort to go

18 really quickly, I think I saw it go by really fast,

19 that are you collecting the amount of radiation

20 exposure in every patient, is that correct?

21 DR. MAURO: Fluoroscopic time.

22 DR. LEVY: Fluoroscopic time? But I would

23 like to see us if we can collect radiation

24 exposure. I know that you at Georgetown are making

25 every effort. Can't do it? Okay.

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1 DR. MAURO: Right now it's fluoroscopic

2 time plus numbers of images.

3 DR. BLANCO: Please identify yourself for

4 the record.

5 DR. MAURO: Matt Mauro from the Society of

6 Cardiovascular and Interventional Radiology.

7 As part of the registry, as part of the

8 database, we are collecting fluoroscopic time, as

9 well as number of images obtained.

10 DR. LEVY: But we are really not

11 collecting, whether it is a single surgeon, two

12 surgeons, just total time in fluoroscopy, number of

13 images. Is that a surrogate, can we march that out

14 in some way to look at outcomes?

15 DR. SPIES: Dr. Spies from Georgetown.

16 The problem with these studies is you

17 actually have to place what are called TLDs in the

18 patient's vagina and on her skin, which is mildly

19 invasive although most patients have no objection,

20 but it is very elaborate, and the reading is very

21 elaborate, and it takes a lot of time, so what we

22 are hoping to do is look at some of these studies

23 as pilots and then be able to extrapolate that data

24 to a population based on the fluoro times that are

25 used for this. It is not exact science, but it

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1 will give us a better idea of the population load

2 of excess radiation or excess cancers.

3 The cancers are probably not going to be

4 an issue. All the radiobiologists we have talked

5 to do not think that this is anywhere near the

6 range in which we would be instigating cancer. The

7 bigger issue is, is there an effect on a woman's

8 ability to have a normal child.

9 If you look at the studies that have been

10 done for Hodgkin's, which have roughly 100 to 500

11 times the dose, their rate of having abnormal

12 children, genetically abnormal children or any kind

13 of malformation is about the same.

14 DR. LEVY: Actually, my concern is not

15 genetically abnormal children, my concern is taking

16 a 29-year-old or a 30-year-old and creating, not

17 premature menopause, but subtle alterations in

18 hormonal function, follicular function to the point

19 where we have significantly impaired their

20 fertility.

21 DR. SPIES: I think to be able to

22 estimate, it is very difficult. Actually, there is

23 very little literature on the effect of radiation

24 on the ovary. It is a difficult thing to study

25 partly because we have not been in the situation

 

 

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1 before.

2 DR. LEVY: Which is why I just want to

3 collect as much data as we can with this wonderful

4 tool that you have started. I think it is

5 critical.

6 The only other comments that I would like

7 to make, there are some things rolling around in

8 the literature about use of Lupron pre-surgery. I

9 think you might want to separate use of hormones.

10 As I understand it now, it is not

11 recommended that Lupron be used for some particular

12 reasons, but when you say hormones, Lupron could be

13 construed in some way to be a hormone, so we

14 probably just want to clarify what we mean when we

15 say hormones, do we mean oral contraceptives, do we

16 mean progestational agents, do we mean--what

17 specifically do we mean, so that you are excluding

18 GnRH agonists perhaps.

19 I am just saying that as we are answering

20 these questions and we are saying should we exclude

21 patients on hormones, we want to clarify which ones

22 we are talking about and what dosages we are

23 talking about.

24 DR. SPIES: We basically are separating

25 the patients into three groups, and those are

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1 patients on oral contraceptives, a progestational

2 agent, or GnRH agonists, and the agonists, in

3 general, most people exclude, and the studies that

4 are currently at present exclude, so patients

5 should not have an active agonist at the time they

6 have this procedure.

7 So, if it is a three-month dose, they

8 should not have this procedure within three months,

9 and that is pretty much standard practice now, and

10 I think that that ought to be the recommendation of

11 our group.

12 What I was actually speaking to was the

13 birth control pills, and in a case of a women that

14 have heavy bleeding, the use of progesterone

15 agents.

16 DR. LEVY: I think that is fine. In

17 summary, I agree with some of the consumer people

18 that have spoken, that a written informed consent

19 is obviously something we do with all studies. I

20 think it is absolutely critical. I think that

21 women need to understand that we do not have long-term

22 follow-up for these procedures.

23 I think that is fairly well established in

24 your things and the things that you have done. You

25 cannot be held responsible for what other people

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1 out there are doing, as I very well understand.

2 But as a vehicle and as FDA, we probably do have

3 some responsibility to create in our guidance

4 document some sort of informed consent, some

5 written document that discusses these things in

6 general for the public, and I think that is very,

7 very important.

8 DR. BLANCO: Thank you.

9 MR. POLLARD: I would just add to the

10 point that you made about the informed consent.

11 Clearly or hopefully, obviously, when we looked at

12 these IDE applications, we did look carefully at

13 the informed consent, and we are also working with

14 the Society on identifying a more standardized list

15 of the risks and explanations of those that would

16 be incorporated into the guidance document, as

17 well.

18 DR. BLANCO: Thank you.

19 Let's go ahead and begin with the

20 discussion questions. The first discussion

21 question is quite lengthy. Let me try to read it

22 for you.

23 FDA is currently drafting an IDE/510(k)

24 guidance document to help in the preparation of

25 such submissions to the agency. Response to these

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1 discussion questions will help with the development

2 of this guidance document.

3 1. Currently, the inclusion and exclusion

4 criteria for UFE performed in FDA-approved clinical

5 studies of UFE are generally as follows:

6 Inclusion Criteria. Symptomatic uterine

7 myomata. Premenopausal, but over 30 to 35 years of

8 age. Normal Pap smears in the last 12 months.

9 Regular menstrual cycles. Normal kidney function.

10 Use or non-use of hormonal contraception must be

11 maintained uniformly from 3 months pre-treatment

12 through study completion. Willingness to consent

13 and complete follow-up requirements of study.

14 Exclusion Criteria. Pregnancy or desire

15 for pregnancy. Gynecologic malignancy or pre-malignancy.

16 Adenomyosis. Candidate for

17 hysteroscopic or laparoscopic myomectomy. Any drug

18 treatment for uterine fibroids within 3 months pre-

19 treatment. Active pelvic infection or history or

20 pelvic inflammatory disease. Any acute or chronic

21 infection. Undiagnosed pelvic mass outside of the

22 uterus. Coagulopathy. History of pelvic

23 irradiation. ASA score greater than or equal to

24 IV. Uterine arterio-venous fistula. Allergy to

25 the I.V. contrast media.

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1 Let me go ahead and open it up to the

2 panel for discussion. Any comments of any of these

3 inclusion or exclusion criteria? Go ahead, Dr.

4 Levy.

5 DR. LEVY: I am not sure that I would

6 exclude patients who are candidates for

7 hysteroscopic or laparoscopic procedures. I think

8 this is a choice as you have eloquently stated,

9 patients want to have choices, they don't want to

10 be randomized. There are patients who don't want

11 to have surgery and are symptomatic.

12 I think that we are making a value

13 judgment when we are excluding patients who are

14 candidates for laparoscopic or hysteroscopic

15 procedure. I think they need to be given informed

16 consent that these are procedures that could be

17 done as a outpatient basis, that there may be a

18 little bit more data specifically on hysteroscopic

19 resection. I think you probably have as much data

20 as we have on laparoscopic resection of myomas, but

21 I am not sure that I would exclude those patients

22 as much as I would just give them informed consent

23 that they have other options. Some of the other

24 patients may not have that option, but in listing

25 the options that patients have, they would be given

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1 that choice.

2 DR. BLANCO: Dr. Diamond.

3 DR. DIAMOND: I would agree with most of

4 the inclusion and exclusion criteria here. The

5 couple that I would want to emphasize, that I do

6 agree with, is that at this point in time, I don't

7 think we ought to be recommending the inclusion of

8 women with known or suspected by gynecologic

9 malignancies and even endometrial hyperplasia,

10 certainly, at this point, I think ought to be

11 excluded.

12 Without a large amount of data about

13 subsequent pregnancy outcomes of these individuals,

14 for research trial's purposes, for new agents that

15 will be coming before FDA, I would also recommend,

16 as is stated here, that individuals who desire

17 future pregnancy be excluded from those trials

18 until we can get additional information.

19 I would disagree a little bit with

20 Barbara, but for a different reason, about patients

21 who are candidates for hysteroscopic myomectomies

22 or perhaps--we talk about laparoscopic potential,

23 you are talking about pedunculated fibroids--just

24 about the hysteroscopic, while I agree that we

25 should be giving patients choice, the question is

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1 are those fibroids going to respond differently

2 than others that are intramural, and if so, would

3 including them in the database potentially alter

4 the result or make it more difficult to interpret

5 the results.

6 The one inclusion criteria that I think I

7 would disagree with is the issue of women who are

8 currently on hormonal contraceptives, and I would

9 agree that if individuals were on them, and would

10 stay on them afterwards, that that would probably

11 be less of an issue, but I don't think that the

12 sponsors are going to have any control over whether

13 women stay on their hormones or not after their

14 procedures, and I think that also would potentially

15 introduce a bias if the women are on them

16 initially, have the procedure, and then go off

17 them, particularly if there are short follow-up

18 periods where stress-related amenorrhea from the

19 procedures may affect subsequent bleeding rates, as

20 well.

21 But I think that potentially introduces an

22 additional factor which may influence the outcome

23 by the woman coming off the birth control pills or

24 just starting that themselves, and then having

25 alterations in their bleeding histories which would

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1 have to be interpolated into the results in order

2 to draw conclusions of the studies.

3 DR. BLANCO: Dr. Shirk, you had some

4 comments?

5 DR. SHIRK: I guess I have got one

6 comment, and that is, one of the exclusion criteria

7 was dropped out from our initial

8 inclusion/exclusion criteria, from the initial

9 draft, we got the second draft, and that is on

10 pedunculated fibroids. Since the two deaths in

11 Europe, and I am not sure about the death in the

12 United States, were associated with pedunculated

13 fibroids, either intrauterine or subserosal, do we

14 want to consider that as part of the exclusion

15 criteria?

16 DR. BLANCO: Any comments?

17 DR. O'SULLIVAN: The question I would have

18 is if you have a pedunculated submucous fibroid,

19 and you then go ahead and embolize that, are you

20 not exposing the patient to a greater risk of

21 infection as a result of that pedunculated fibroid,

22 that you are causing degeneration to, which is

23 sitting free in the uterine cavity, which is not

24 sterile?

25 DR. LEVY: I would think if the only myoma

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1 a patient had were a submucous pedunculated

2 fibroid, that we would not be considering these

3 kinds of procedures. We are really looking at, in

4 these procedures, women who have 14, 16, 18-week

5 size uteri with multiple fibroids. They may have a

6 submucous fibroid, and I don't think they should be

7 excluded from consideration if they do.

8 We know that if they do have submucous

9 fibroids that are on a pedicle, that they

10 frequently slough, they pass them, these are the

11 small percentage of people that sometimes need

12 hysteroscopic resection or D&C to get rid of that

13 necrotic tissue.

14 DR. ROBERTS: I have a number of concerns

15 about some of these inclusion and exclusion

16 criteria, and I will just sort of go through them

17 in order.

18 One is regular menstrual cycles. Many of

19 the women that we treat do not have normal cycles.

20 They may have bleeding in between their cycles.

21 They may bleed for two weeks, stop for a week and a

22 half, and bleed for another two weeks. So, I think

23 normal menstrual cycles is probably not a

24 reasonable inclusion criteria.

25 Normal kidney function. I think if you

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1 had someone who is on dialysis and is bleeding, and

2 may not be a good candidate certainly for surgery,

3 certainly, that person who is on dialysis should,

4 in fact, not be excluded from this.

5 I think I would agree that if someone has

6 borderline renal function, that is something

7 different, but if they are already on dialysis,

8 then, there is no reason. You know, contrast is

9 not going to hurt their kidneys.

10 My concern about the hormonal

11 contraceptives is that I think it needs to be how

12 it is defined. If it is just simply hormones for

13 contraceptives, I agree, I think it is going to be

14 hard to legislate to patients whether or not they

15 are going to remain on contraceptives or whether

16 they are going to want to start contraceptives now

17 that they are not bleeding so much. Maybe they

18 figure they will have sex, so they would like to be

19 on contraceptives because they don't want to have

20 children.

21 In terms of the exclusion criteria, I

22 guess in terms of a research study, pregnancy, I

23 think that is a question we really want to answer,

24 and it may be, in fact, that pregnancy is something

25 we want to leave, you know, we don't want to

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1 exclude, but I think that perhaps there is enough

2 question about that, that we at least ought to

3 think about that.

4 Certainly, anyone with a malignancy or

5 pre-malignancy shouldn't be treated. I don't know

6 that adenomyosis should be on the exclusion

7 criteria. We know that some patients with

8 adenomyosis seem to respond to this. We don't

9 really understand what is going on with

10 adenomyosis.

11 Some patients, where they have done

12 hysterectomies, they found that some of those

13 patients have adenomyosis, but in other patients

14 that they know have adenomyosis, they have a good

15 response.

16 I would say that it shouldn't be an

17 exclusion criteria, but probably should be perhaps

18 in a subset, if someone is going to study it, it is

19 going to be in a subset.

20 I think in terms of any drug treatment for

21 uterine fibroids, that is not a reasonable

22 exclusion criteria because I get a lot of patients

23 who come in, who are taking, you know, who have

24 been put on double dose hormones, double dose

25 contraceptives to try and control their bleeding,

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1 and that is their control for right now until

2 something else can be done.

3 I will tell you a lot of these patients

4 aren't just taking double dose, they are taking

5 four times because they find out, they are told to

6 be taking twice as much, and then they find it is

7 not really working, so they are taking four times,

8 and obviously, those patients I don't think should

9 be excluded from this.

10 I think in terms of the allergy to

11 contrast media, I think it is important to say an

12 untreatable allergy to contrast media because many

13 patients have hives to contrast, you give them a

14 little SoluMedrol or you give them a little

15 benedryl, and they are going to be just fine. So,

16 I think it should be an untreated allergy to

17 contrast media.

18 So, I will stop with those.

19 DR. BLANCO: Any other comments?

20 Let me comment on a couple of things that

21 you said. I think the way that it is written, you

22 are going to exclude a lot of patients if you want

23 regular menstrual cycles when you are dealing with

24 patients with symptomatic uterine fibroids.

25 DR. LEVY: Maybe we could say normal

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1 ovarian function.

2 DR. BLANCO: I think as far as the

3 hormones, the contraception, the three months, I

4 think you are going to face that problem either way

5 the decision is made because just like you are

6 likely to have women who will come off the oral

7 contraceptives after the procedure, you are going

8 to have some that will go back on it, as you

9 alluded to.

10 So, I think essentially, whatever study

11 gets designed, you are going to have to presuppose

12 that those are going to happen and take into

13 account numbers that you may have to analyze

14 separately or analyze differently in terms of how

15 big you plan for the study to be in order to prove

16 what you want to prove.

17 I would be interested in other folks'

18 comments, but I think pregnancy is a big issue, and

19 until we know more information--and I recognize a

20 lot of women may say now they don't want to get

21 pregnant, they may want to in five years from now

22 and vice versa--until we know a little bit more of

23 what it does, and we will.

24 I mean some of these women that are going

25 to say that they don't want to be pregnant, will

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1 eventually become pregnant, and until we find out a

2 little bit more, it is probably better to leave

3 those folks out.

4 Any questions?

5 DR. O'SULLIVAN: I am just going to make a

6 comment. I mean we do have some information albeit

7 a slightly different situation, in which we have

8 had women with postpartum hemorrhages, and in an

9 attempt to conserve the uterus, have done both

10 bilateral uterine artery and ovarian artery

11 ligations, and they have subsequently gotten

12 pregnant. But it is starting out as a different

13 situation with a huge collateral blood supply that

14 probably wouldn't be the case here.

15 One of the questions I have--could we go

16 back to the last slide that you just took off? I

17 see the contraindication, uterine arterio-venous

18 fistula, why is that a contraindication? As an

19 exclusion criteria I mean, why would that be

20 exclusion?

21 DR. ROBERTS: I am not sure that it should

22 be, but the problem, if you have a really large

23 arterio-venous fistula, is that you are treating a

24 fistula, not fibroids. I am assuming that they

25 mean with this that they don't have fibroids, they,

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1 in fact, have an arterio-venous fistula, and then

2 you can have the particles move through the fistula

3 into the lungs. So, that is considered bad form.

4 If it was simply an arterio-venous

5 fistula, you would have to treat the fistula

6 differently than you would the fibroids, and then

7 you could presumably treat it, so I am assuming

8 that that is the reason, because your treatment for

9 the fistula would be very different than with the

10 fibroids.

11 DR. ROY: The second inclusion criteria,

12 premenopausal; more than 30, 35 years of age, by

13 implication excludes people younger than that. I

14 was surprised that no one has yet mentioned that

15 there are women who have completed their

16 childbearing younger than that, who have myomata

17 uteri, who are symptomatic.

18 DR. BLANCO: You are going to want

19 premenopausal, but what you are basically saying is

20 you may not need that 30 to 35.

21 DR. ROY: Right.

22 DR. BLANCO: Colin.

23 MR. POLLARD: I just wanted to highlight,

24 so that it is clear to everyone what we are looking

25 at. What we are looking at is sort of a synopsis,

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1 which is why in that opening sentence, it says

2 "generally" of the two clinical trials that we have

3 approved.

4 This is not necessarily exactly what is

5 going to go into the guidance document, but it is

6 sort of something that we thought would be very

7 helpful for the panel to work from, so in the

8 context of where did these come from, they came

9 from clinical trials we looked at.

10 The other thing was Dr. Roberts went

11 through a number of exclusions that she had some

12 question about, and we are hoping that the panel

13 might sort of engage on those, do they agree, do

14 they not agree, are there qualifiers, that sort of

15 thing.

16 DR. BLANCO: Thank you.

17 Let's hear from Dr. Spies. He wanted to

18 say something.

19 DR. SPIES: I am sorry, I don't mean to

20 interject, but the issue of hormones, I think is

21 quite important. I am actually more concerned

22 about the safety of this procedure than having a

23 truly accurate assessment.

24 So, if I had to choose between a truly

25 accurate assessment of the treatment effect of this

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1 procedure versus the safety of the procedure, we

2 should go with safety.

3 Now, we have treated 425 patients at

4 Georgetown. We have had three thrombotic

5 complications - the PE I showed you, we had an

6 arterial thrombosis, and we had a very minor DVT

7 that didn't require any specific therapy. All

8 three women were on hormones.

9 The two with the worst complications were

10 on both Provera, double-dose Provera, or Aygestin,

11 and birth control pills. Now, we are just about to

12 start a study looking at prothrombotic states as a

13 result of this procedure, so that it is quite

14 likely that women become prothrombotic as a result

15 of this, just as they do with neurosurgery and hip

16 surgery, and other kinds of things.

17 The question is are they made more

18 prothrombotic by this, so I would ask the panelists

19 to seriously think about it before they exclude

20 thes